Susan Chat on " Plight of lesser animals" will start at 8PM(IST).
rAJa hi all
Susan Hi Raja. Are you a wildlife enthusiast?
Susan Since no one else is there why do'nt you introduce yourself?
rAJa i am from coimbatore tamil nad
rAJa where are you from
Susan I stay in Gurgaon, Haryana.
rAJa have u visited corbett
Susan Yes, many times. Even made a short video"To Corbett With Love"
Susan Tell us about the national parks you have visited.
rAJa here i have visited mudumalai NP bandipur NP nagarhole NP mukurthi NP silent valley NP
sachdr Hi Susan
rAJa abt ur visits
Susan The list is impressive-Raja. Hi sachdr
sachdr this is my first time on this chat forum , so how do we go about it. Do we start a general discussion abt the plight of animals (im skipping
Susan Apart from the tiger & elephant which are the rare animals you find in the forests around Mudumalai?
Susan Well our moderator and expert is not here yet, so let us share what we know.
rAJa we have "black leopards" that r very rarely found and of course panthers
Susan Do you have a picture of black leopard which we can put on the site? May be you can send in a small write up about it too/ I have never seen
a black leopard
rAJa no man i saw from the list of animals listed over there i have seen just elephants,,gaurs,boar,sambhar,chital ,peacock
Please correct me if I am wrong, Susan/Raja , could you give me some inputs about what the group has as it goals or say major focus points? or am I getting too serious?
Susan Hi Sachdr, the group focuses on creating awareness among adults about our vanishing wildlife, about environmental problems leveraging the internet
to spread awareness.
rAJa i have been in many parks yet desperate to c a tiger
Susan Hi Parthi
sachdr http://www.scs.abelgratis.co.uk/bigcats2/html/body_black_leopard.html the site has some info on black leopard
Susan Sure place to see a tiger is Ranthambhore.
parthi hi susan
rAJa susan parthi is my frend we both go for parks
Susan Sorry no tiger talk in today's chat.
sachdr hey Raja, did u see the recently covered documentary on Sunder Bans (tigers) on ANimal Planet they waited to have a look at one for 3 mths......without
Susan I will be happy to get your suggestions on what other features we can introduce apart from quiz & ezine.
sachdr oh great...i had a few of them :)...
sachdr maybe we can have a online space for sharing snaps that we think r worth sharing and mentioning some points about the stiuation when we took
them + i think we should start something like, having an action item for the month
Susan Go ahead sachdr
sachdr one example would be "the Bombay Zoo" , seriously..there cant be any greater torture for the poor animals...maybe we can collectively contact
someone who can do something abt it
parthi this is the first time i hav entered this chat room
sachdr it may seem a farfetched idea, i dont know..but its worth a try
rAJa can we fgo for for some park visits
sachdr i hope we can try something like that..something on similar lines
parthi how abt u all? i would say the best way to start is let's introduce ourselves first
Susan Parthi , any suggestions to make our site more interactive?
sachdr park visits would be a great idea
sachdr its my first time too
rAJa susan, i ll think over the development of our site and send to u thro groups
sachdr lets have a topic for the month similar to this chat forum, but the response can be sent throughout the month ( a message board of sorts).
This will give those ppl who cant come on the chat to give in their inputs as well
Susan I have been wondering if we can start a diary for say, Mumbai, Delhi, Madras& other places
rAJa what abt giving info abt IFS examinations
parthi have to think abt ideas to make the site more interactive.let me put my ideas during next chat
sachdr yes, the diary thing is a good idea
Susan Mr.Vyas called up He is logging in soon
parthi you are right.everyone of us shall mail to the group about the parks and sanctuaries they have been to
Susan If you click on "Green jobs" IFS exam info is there.
rAJa susan what do u think of the control of an IFS officer over the power of polticians in a district?
Susan I will leave the question to Mr. Vyas who is coming in soon.
rAJa i think indian wildlife need a star representative like sachin to reach to the masses? what do u think?
rAJa sorry susan i am far away from todays topic!
Sarit is the chat still on
sachdr we have had ppl like saurav and dravid (i think) propogating the "save the tiger" thing
Susan Hi Sarit welcome.
Sarit Good evening everybody
rAJa good evening sarit! and to my knowledge after indira gandhi no influential politician has taken conservation serious (except for maneka) like
PMS,CMS and Ministers
Susan I personally do not believe in celebrity endorsement of wildlife.
Sarit i'm sorry for being late
Susan The time has come for the common man to take wildlife seriously.
rAJa leave the ppl who know abt wildlife ! but the common man needs an awkening
sachdr I agree with u Susan, but how do we reach the masses. We cannot do it just through our website. There has to be something more.
rAJa of course as ur view, celebrities can take that to the fullest. but we can get a start to the lay man thro celebriries. just for the thought
process to be initiated
Vyas Hi! Soory to join in late.
Susan Welcome Mr.Vyas
Sarit Well i do agree with raja and Sachdr that its very important to make aware the common man
Sarit Good evening MR.Vyas
rAJa hello sir welcome
parthi We cannot reach the masses in a very short time.we must first create awareness among the ppl around us.
Vyas Good evening everbody.
parthi good evening sir
sachdr The best way to go about it, i think is...take up a small project, complete it. Make sure that it is something which will be covered by some
form of media. Getting news published in Newspapers is not so very difficult, this will give ppl a chance to read and know....and to make it clear, I am not telling this so that our group comes in the media, no..its just a channel which i think we should try
and make use of to spread awareness
rAJa sir, what do you think of influence of an IFS officer over the current politicians?
Vyas I believe that we must try to get genuine support from all and most of all from celebreties but not just lip service.
Vyas Raja - I think it is the other way round - how the politicians are influencing the forest officers-, for that matter the entire adminstration
whether for good or worse and not the other way round.
rAJa yes sir i meant the other sorry
Sarit I'm a management student and you will be surprised to know that people here to in my campus have very little knowledge about conservation of
rAJa some people tell me " if u want to conserve, become a serious conservationist! not an IFS " wat do u think sir
parthi even the educated are not that much aware of the wildlife.so, we can even think abt conducting seminars if some of us are still in colleges
sachdr That means we would be targetting Television media, which is a little more difficult to get coverage on.
sachdr so the question is, do we need to make ppl aware of"wildlife" or "conservation of wildlife"
sachdr maybe we can go to institutions and give a seminar or something abt wildlife conservation
Vyas There are many credible NGO's doing excellent wildlife conservation work so it is not necessary to beocme a forest officer - and yes there is
no harm in joining the forest service and do your bit.
parthi only by making the ppl aware of wildlife,we can think of conservation...
sachdr in addition we would need some posters to be put up in the colleges because having been thru college life, i know how inclined students r to
attend seminars (we need to reach those who are not interested yet)
Vyas Sarit - it is not just the common person who is ignorant about Wl issues- even those who are managing the forests and wildlife need to be properly
parthi the importance of wildlife should be stressed right from the primary education
rAJa i think we need some interesting demos in TV abt conservation
sachdr couldnt agree more parthi
Vyas The best way is to have periodic short workshop on specific issues involving people who matter. I also feel that if we can't educate or create
awarness among a billion people, at least do so with people who matter atleast.
Sarit well thats very neccesary
sachdr I agree.
rAJa likesome facts abt some animals or indian wildlife
Sarit So what about lesser animals
sachdr Maybe that is the right approach ...approach ppl who come in contact (direct indirect) with the animals first
Vyas Another view is how does it make any difference if a pan wallah or veg. vendor knows or does not know about these issues but it is absolutely
critical for the admisntrators, policy maker, the law maker and the law enforcer to understand these issues in proper perspective than to waste resources in educating all and sundry who have no contriubiton whatsoever in preserving and protecting forests and
wildlife and environment in general.
parthi trips to parks and sanctuaries should be encouraged at the students level.so,we should contact ppl we know at the nature clubs in colleges...
rAJa yes sir as ur view first the ppl in charge must be educated. if possible the more interested ppl should b handed over the charge
Vyas The mega species i.e. the Tiger,elephant, leopard, rhino etc. are the flag ship species but we must not forget lesser animals such as the tortoise,
lesser cats, birds, reptiles etc.
parthi i agree with you sir.i think the best way to reach anyone is when they are students.it is they who are going to become future officers
rAJa if all IFS are enthusiasts or at they r least well educated abt forests that would be great
Vyas There is nothing wrong in joining IFS because we need good commiited people joining the IFS but even outside much can be done.
Vyas Don't jsut depend on TV programs as those may well be seen only by couch potatoes who will not have the inclination to get up and act.
parthi How far do you think the conservation of our wildlife hav been in near past ...may be in the last decade
Vyas Yes - I have had wonderful experience of running nature clubs with students and many from there became first rate conservationsts and are well
Susan Love for wildlife & nature is essential to conserve them - the why & how of conservation can be then left to educators & implementors
Susan Tv programs arouse interest which needs to be followed up
Vyas I used to organise camps in national parks and sanctuaries and all those who had partcipated as students even today show remarkable understanding
and committment towards conservation - well after as many as 25 years.
rAJa ok sir! we have projects for tiger, elephants and rhinos . what is being done for the lesser animasl?
Vyas Parthi- The decade of eighties was of great conservation works and creativitiy - various acts, National Forest Policy etc. were created. The decade
of the nineties has been the decade of destruction as the econmic liberisation and "development " became the buzz word forest protection and wildlife took the back seat. The decade of 2000 I pray and hope may not turn out to be the decade of total decimation
as is being seen from the recent prounouncements of the Minsitry of Envrionment and Forests.
Vyas Habitat protection and species conservation by strictly enforcing the existing laws will be enough to protect hem.
Vyas May I now leave??
parthi recently they say "project tiger"has been successful in conserving tiger...how abt protection for other endangered species...
Susan Thank you very much Mr. Vyas. I know you have left more imp. engagements to be with us today.
Vyas If you properly protect the habitat of the Tiger or big animals such as elephant - the other animals and birds found in that forest will automatically
get protected. No seperate effort needs to be put in for them.
rAJa thank you sir
parthi thank you sir for all the info
Susan Thank you all esply for the suggestions about the website.
rAJa sure mam we ll mail regarding website
Susan Hope to see you all next month same day same time.
parthi let us hope many more will be there with us during our next chat
rAJa ok mam it was a good that u made ppl like vyas to be here with us thank you
Susan Any suggestions for next month's chat. You can mail me with the suggestions too.
Susan For the moment I am afraid I have to shut the chat room.