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Chat on
"Human Elephant Conflict"
dated
December 18, 2010
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- Prajakta hushangabadkar: hello susan mam
- Alok Kaushik: Welcome. Today's chat topic is 'Human elephant conflict'.
- Alok Kaushik: Dr. Susan is expected to join shortly.
- Rupali Devi Barua: Hello! How are you?
- Alok Kaushik: Thanks for joining. We are expecting Ankur Chaturvedi as well shortly.
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: helo
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: hello susan mam
- Rupali Devi Barua: Which is the primary reason of the conflict,_ increase in number or encroachment of their territory?9sorry, couldn't elaborate)
- Rupali Devi Barua: Hello,Susan!
- Ankur: hello everyone
- Ankur: sorry
- Ankur: i am late
- Ankur: hi
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: hello sir
- Rupali Devi Barua: Hello!
- Ankur: all of you must have read about the recent episodes of elephents being run over by trains in north bengal
- Ankur: hi rupali
- Ankur: rupali.. the primary reason is reduction of habitat
- Rupali Devi Barua: Hi, I belong to North east and I am familiar with such news all the time( of course , I don't stay there all the time too)!
- Ankur: the elephant numbers in south india are much higher, but the conflict is much less..
- Ankur: the problem in the north east is also the degenaration of the forests..
- Ankur: in other words the "elephant habitat" is just habitable on paper...
- Ankur: there is hardly anythig left for the elephents to survive on
- Rupali Devi Barua: But do you think the assorted problems the pachyderm is facing could also because the number has increased; I heard they are growing in numbers over there;
- Ankur: i do not have the data bur can safely asume that elephant numbers are not a problem....
- Ankur: maybe Susan could throw some light on this
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: my question is also same ,but they are faceing threats as accidents,deforestration,many other
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: if we say they are increse in number
- Ankur: could you please elaborate prajakta
- Ankur: getting acurate numbers is always a problem...
- Rupali Devi Barua: One thing true,_ the corridor areas are much disrupted causing the conflict to be more instant in nature;
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: they damaged crop of farmer which relly increse
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: conflict between human and wild harbivorus
- Ankur: my dear friend have no respect for the international borders and move across bhutan / nepal / india
- Ankur: rupali....that indeed is the main problem in north east, specially north bengal
- Rupali Devi Barua: I mean to say, the conflicts are becoming more frequent; Do you think safeguarding the corridor areas will be one big effort on govt. part?
- Ankur: prajakta... for the elephants there is nothing like crops or forest, they eat waht they get
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: ok.
- Ankur: yes rupali... safegaurding the corridor is a must, unfortunatlely our govt has not even completed the study of viable corridors
- Ankur: Hi Alok... yet to hear from you
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: but it is possible to give set of mittigation to the areas where conflict is rising
- Ankur: well the conflict is highest in north bengal....
- Rupali Devi Barua: The elephants come to the raiway lines because they are crossing the elephants' corridor paths; should n't govt. revert the railway lines to other areas?
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: ok..
- Ankur: creating corridors in tea belt is really not a problem... just needs to be taken up as a priority and done
- Ankur: rupali... that's easier said than done...
- Ankur: we need "out of box" solutions as both the railway track and the elephants have to stay
- Rupali Devi Barua: That is true; but sooner or later it must be done to avoid such things happenning in future; Shouldn't there be some campaign to pressurise the government?
- Ankur: Yes.. i agree.
- Ankur: Over the last few years, elephants have routinely been hit by trains...
- Ankur: these are reported in the press... even TV news and that's just about it..
- Ankur: pepole forget about the problem till the next elephant is hit and again this becomes a topic of reports and debates for the next few days
- Ankur: wildlife managment is india is very poor...
- Ankur: the size and the wanderlust of the elephants exagerate the problem
- Susan Sharma: Sorry friends, I am not able to join in Am in a village in H.P slow connection
- Ankur: no problem susan... i am holding fort!
- Rupali Devi Barua: I think it should be people's mission to raise voice for the corridor's safeguard;
- Ankur: I could not agree more...
- Ankur: have been trying to do my bit but not with much success..
- Ankur: how about starting a campaing..
- Ankur: you could involve your co-workers, friends, facebook pals...
- Ankur: if all of do that maybe we could build up a support base and then raise our voice
- Rupali Devi Barua: Sometime back govt. recommended a bill on elephant; do you think the corridor is a concern?
- Ankur: I am sorry rupali.. i am not aware of the bill
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: we can sign online pittation
- Ankur: yes we could.. prajakta
- Rupali Devi Barua: Your idea is nice; why not start a campaign in FB, our homeline portal? Prajakta's idea is also very nice;
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: we will circulate on fb and web site
- Ankur: would you want to do that?
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: yes if i get guidance
- Ankur: we could put links to pics and news reports
- Rupali Devi Barua: Sure; why should there be any problem? only we have to be systematic, I believe;
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: ok.sorry friend i have resque call hv to go plz
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: plz inform me
- Ankur: sure..
- Ankur: lets keep in touch..
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: i lov to do that byye
- Ankur: my mail id is mansi.ankur@gmail.com
- Rupali Devi Barua: In fact, sorry, i too get to go;( enjoyed the discussion very much);
- Ankur: rupali.. lets catch up and work on fb
- Ankur: bye and take care
- Rupali Devi Barua: But tomorrow get to appear for Human rights's test; ( Want to see where man's and animals' rights conflict)!
- Ankur: thanks for your concern and time
- Ankur: all the best
- Ankur: human's rigths are denied by human's only
- Rupali Devi Barua: Nice talking ( Chatting) with everyone: would like to know further development....
- Ankur: hi alok
- Alok Mishra: Hi Ankur
- Alok Mishra: and Namaste to everyone
- Ankur: welcome
- Alok Mishra: thanks
- Ankur: so what do you think about the conflict?
- Rupali Devi Barua: @ Ankur,_and how we can proceed our campaign in FB andother sites!
- Alok Mishra: the conflict is human made
- Alok Mishra: and it is due to violation of nature's law
- Alok Mishra: by us
- Alok Mishra: Elephants or any other wild animals simly follow the rules of nature and basic instinct
- Ankur: lets first collate the info for our fb page... maybe susan could help with this
- Rupali Devi Barua: @ alok,_ sorry ,leaving soon; wuld like to discuss about what we can do further; Bye..
- Ankur: lets take one step at a time
- Alok Mishra: no problem
- Alok Mishra: I cam elate :)
- Alok Mishra: *late
- Ankur: better late than never :)
- Alok Mishra: ha ha
- Rupali Devi Barua: Coming back again, I can contribute with a poster for FB if you want to start the campaign; Shall send to Susan if she wants;
- Ankur: that will be grate rupali...
- Ankur: you could mail it to me as well
- Rupali Devi Barua: In a few days I shall be sending it; may be we should go to causes.com?
- Rupali Devi Barua: Kindly can you both give me your FB add. or email ID?
- Alok Mishra: akmishra.edu@gmail.com
- Ankur: mansi.ankur@gmail.com
- Alok Mishra: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/anticipator
- Alok Mishra: thank you
- Ankur: same id on fb
- Alok Mishra: I hope it will be enlightening for me
- Alok Mishra: actually I work in the area of education
- Alok Mishra: so mainly I enjoy expert opinion and discussions at such occassions
- Ankur: where are you based alsok?
- Ankur: alok. sorry
- Alok Mishra: Alok
- Alok Mishra: Bangalore
- Ankur: well i have worked on the problem in north east.
- Rupali Devi Barua: Thank you all; shall contact soon and let me be informed if you would like the poster of the campaign; Bye..
- Ankur: you can read my article on the site published a few years back
- Alok Mishra: please send me the site
- Alok Mishra: and details
- Deepak Arya: Namaskara Deepak from Bangalore
- Ankur: hi deepak
- Alok Mishra: hi deepak
- Deepak Arya: sorry for the delay
- Ankur: alok
- Deepak Arya: Hi all of you
- Ankur: the article is on the site of the Indian wildlife club
- Deepak Arya: first time on a chat room - so don't know much - please excuse any mistakes
- Ankur: www.indianwildlifeclub.com/ResearchPapers/Human-Elephant-Conflict.aspx
- Ankur: there is always a first time...
- Ankur: please feel at home
- Deepak Arya: thanks
- Ankur: we aprecite your concern
- Ankur: what do you think can be done to prevent the conflict from escelating
- Deepak Arya: I have seen many incidences near bangalore with disastrous effects
- Deepak Arya: Tamil Nadu chases the elephants across the Cauvery valley and from here it is the same
- Deepak Arya: I don't know I have given many representations to PCCF - nothing works
- Ankur: well my friend..that is nothing compared to what the elephants have to go through in north bengal
- Deepak Arya: Trains
- Deepak Arya: keep reading about it and feel sad
- Alok Kaushik: Friends. Just a quick time check...
- Ankur: trains are just one of the things...
- Deepak Arya: in such specified tracks build overbridges
- Ankur: can you imagine a burninf tyre being thrwon on an elephant's back...
- Ankur: it melts and sticks..
- Ankur: the more the animal trieas to rub it off, the more it burns
- Deepak Arya: horrible is not the word - catch that fellow and adorn him with a burning tyre
- Ankur: elephant with his trunk chopped off?
- Deepak Arya: but why as well kill it directly
- Ankur: they are killed as well!
- Deepak Arya: why torture before - ugliness to its limits - I feel atleast Veerappan would kill them first
- Ankur: veerappan wanted tusks...
- Ankur: these people are at war with the elephants
- Deepak Arya: what do these people want?
- Ankur: you too should read my article..
- Deepak Arya: I will surely just after this
- Alok Mishra: @Ankur. Where I can get those articles?
- Ankur: we are planning a online campaing in fb and other sites... would request you support
- Ankur: www.indianwildlifeclub.com/ResearchPapers/Human-Elephant-Conflict.aspx
- Alok Mishra: thanks
- Ankur: Thanks everyone...
- Ankur: need to go now
- Deepak Arya: Bye
- Ankur: you can stay in touch on mail...mansi.ankur@gmail.com
- Alok Mishra: Thank you to everybody
- Deepak Arya: sure
- Ankur: thanks and bye
- Alok Mishra: bye bye
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