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Chat on
"Plant native trees this monsoon"
dated
January 18, 2011
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- Susan Sharma: Welcome to our online chat on native trees
- Susan Sharma: Manasi Karandikar is our moderator today
- Manasi Karandikar: Namaskar !
- Susan Sharma: Hi Manasi
- Manasi Karandikar: Hi
- Susan Sharma: Tell us what you do at Oikos
- Manasi Karandikar: oikos for ecological services is a consultancy
- Susan Sharma: Use small sentences
- Manasi Karandikar: we work in nature conservation
- Manasi Karandikar: ok
- Manasi Karandikar: for pravate land owners
- Susan Sharma: why only private?
- Manasi Karandikar: they have land & resources to work on
- Susan Sharma: ok
- Manasi Karandikar: also working for native plant propagation
- Manasi Karandikar: & awareness creation
- Susan Sharma: how do you propagate native plants-you have nurseries?
- Manasi Karandikar: yes.
- Manasi Karandikar: we cultivate medicinal, rare & uncommon plants
- Manasi Karandikar: trees, shrubs, climbers, grasses..
- Susan Sharma: Is aloe vera a native plant?
- Manasi Karandikar: it have been used for many years
- Manasi Karandikar: but it is not native here
- Manasi Karandikar: native is a very specific term
- Manasi Karandikar: native to India can be non-native to pune or mumbai
- Susan Sharma: Can we really ask plants to respect state boundaries?
- Manasi Karandikar: or native to coasts will be non-native for hills
- Manasi Karandikar: it is not about state boundaries
- Manasi Karandikar: it is about climatic regimes
- Manasi Karandikar: or the bio-geographic zones
- Susan Sharma: Roughly how many such zones are there in India?
- Manasi Karandikar: about 10
- Susan Sharma: Also, exotic plants which do not take over natives can be welcome, I guess
- Manasi Karandikar: yes, but we do not know this
- Manasi Karandikar: while planting
- Manasi Karandikar: non-natives may become invasive after 20 yrs or so.
- Susan Sharma: can you give some examples?
- Manasi Karandikar: subabhul, lantana, australian acacia
- Manasi Karandikar: cosmos - herb with orange flowers
- Manasi Karandikar: actually there are many now-a-days
- Susan Sharma: i did not know cosmos is exotic
- Manasi Karandikar: yes. and it was spread being beautiful looking plant
- Susan Sharma: i have some african glory bowers which grow well all over North in winters -does not seem harmful at all
- Susan Sharma: In fact i see warblers nesting in their leaves
- Manasi Karandikar: so then it is ok for planting in city gardens but not in natural areas
- Manasi Karandikar: yes, wildlife use such plants often but
- Manasi Karandikar: that doesnot mean it is not harmful to ecosystem
- Manasi Karandikar: unfortunately, we lack in such studies. western countries have done lot of research
- Susan Sharma: Lantana Subabhul and Aus acacia- are they all invasive?
- Manasi Karandikar: yes. they spread & reduce original diversity
- Susan Sharma: How can one deweed them?
- Manasi Karandikar: oh.. very difficult task
- Susan Sharma: Are there invasive trees too?
- Manasi Karandikar: one way is to cut them while flowering & next is to uproot.
- Manasi Karandikar: yes. subabhul, aus acacia are trees.
- Manasi Karandikar: for more reading, you can see section 'know more' on our website
- Susan Sharma: Thanks. Can you give the link url to the section ?
- Manasi Karandikar: http://oikos.in/pages/km00.html
- Manasi Karandikar: hi Abhay
- Abhay: hi
- Susan Sharma: Most tree plantation in these areas are done by Govt. Dept. They are very fond of quick growing trees. Can you suggest some native trees for the North?
- Susan Sharma: Welcome Abhay
- Abhay: thnks
- Manasi Karandikar: True. Here is a partial list
- Manasi Karandikar: Karanj, Shivan, Jamun, Dhawada, Pangara,
- Manasi Karandikar: You just need to check the local names else I can give sci. names
- Susan Sharma: What about Neem, Imli?silver oak?
- Manasi Karandikar: neem & imli ok. but not silver oak.
- Manasi Karandikar: you can also refer to list in website article
- Abhay: Sorry, im v poor in trees/plans knowledge bt would like 2 know...
- Susan Sharma: Silver Oak brings blue bottle butterflies and they do not seem harmful(trees)
- Manasi Karandikar: you can start by knowing various names & plants around you
- Manasi Karandikar: actually, silver oak grows by seeds in surrounding area & that's dangerous
- Manasi Karandikar: it may attract wildlife but if it starts growing naturally, it will spread fast
- Manasi Karandikar: Abhay, you can also read the article on our website. http://www.oikos.in/pages/km00.html
- Abhay: sure
- Susan Sharma: I understand that exotic trees need to be pruned and kept in check
- Manasi Karandikar: this could be your first lesson that there is differenciation like native & non-native plants
- Susan Sharma: My experience is limited to city parks
- Manasi Karandikar: exotic are ok in cities, if planted in controlled environment
- Manasi Karandikar: but we have native alternatives that are adapted & co-evolved with natural systems
- Manasi Karandikar: a botanical garden may have exotic for variety & study, but parks or streets can have natives
- Manasi Karandikar: Hi Prajakta
- Susan Sharma: Hi Prajakta
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: hello suasn mam
- Abhay: oh its oikos's site... since 1+ yr im getting desktops every month..
- Manasi Karandikar: oh..
- Abhay: r u d same frm manasi & ketaki..??
- Manasi Karandikar: yes.
- Abhay: oh ok
- Manasi Karandikar: how do you know us ?
- Manasi Karandikar: so, our last year theme was climbers & you know atleast 12 of them :-)
- Abhay: s
- Abhay: ur names r there in mails
- Manasi Karandikar: ok
- Susan Sharma: Which area are you from, Abhay
- Abhay: thana, maharashtra
- Abhay: im in snake rescuing
- Abhay: as a social activity
- Manasi Karandikar: that's coastal belt
- Susan Sharma: Good -You are into conserving precious wildlife!
- Manasi Karandikar: this area originally had good diversity in vegetation
- Susan Sharma: Samudra Phool -is it a native?
- Manasi Karandikar: phool or phal ? local name changes as per region. any description of plant ?
- Susan Sharma: Beautiful pink, dark pink flower with needle like petals. Used to be seen in Marine Drive area.
- Abhay: is it comes in Mangroves ?
- Manasi Karandikar: thought so. it is originally from Malysia
- Abhay: k
- Manasi Karandikar: no. not mangrove
- Abhay: can share photo here?
- Susan Sharma: I have sent a photo to you , Manasi on your mail.
- Manasi Karandikar: ok.
- Manasi Karandikar: yes. it is Barringtonia asiatica. from Malaysia
- Susan Sharma: Prajakta, are you online?
- Susan Sharma: Invasive, exotic?
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: yes i m here
- Manasi Karandikar: not known till date about its invasiveness. it is exotic
- Manasi Karandikar: exotic also means beautiful. so better to use term non-native.
- Prajakta hushangabadkar: i have one question
- Manasi Karandikar: Sorry, but need to leave in next 10 min.
- Susan Sharma: Come on, Prajakta, delete the extra words and ask
- Manasi Karandikar: any problem ? send ur Qs on email. oikos@oikos.in
- Manasi Karandikar: What's up
- Abhay: u ve sent it on gmail?
- Abhay: ok let me check
- Susan Sharma: Thank you Manasi for patiently answering our layman questions
- Manasi Karandikar: its pleasure !
- Susan Sharma: Do use our blog section for writing in once in a while
- Manasi Karandikar: Do write for more queries
- Manasi Karandikar: sure. Thanks for inviting me here !
- Susan Sharma: Spreading awareness is what we do online. My experience i sthe current generation pick up lots of info online
- Manasi Karandikar: That's true.
- Susan Sharma: Shall I close the room if there are no more qs?
- Susan Sharma: Thank you Abhay, Prajakta
- Manasi Karandikar: Thanks to all
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