Chat on 'Tourism and Wildlife" dated 18 th August 2005
Susan Welcome to IWC chat on 'Tourism and Wildlife"
shweta hi susan how r u
Susan hello Shweta Susan How is your study program going? Tourism must be a part of your syllabus too.
shweta yes writing assinments these days Susan Any assignment on eco-tourism?
Susan Any assignment on eco-tourism?
Susan Would you like to tell us about it?
shweta Here in India the future is really good but we need to be sinciere in our effort
Susan Which are the eco-tourism spots you have visited?
Susan May be as part of your course you have visted some places...
shweta if we talk about eco tourism we have only national parks as eco tourism venues
Susan Well it can also be sanctuaries, village tourism, temple tourism...
shweta many countries like south africa , australia r really doing well as eco tourism destination
Susan What makes you say that?
shweta can i share some data with u regarding this
Susan Yes, of course
shweta india has 7 times south africa forest cover, almost twice as many species of mammals , 4 times as many species of birds 5 times as many kinds of reptiles. and with 4 times as many protected sanctuaries
shweta india is far better endowed with ecological resources than south africa
Susan The statistics is really revealing...
shweta and yet, s africa, expects to earn more than $6.25 billion alone in foreign ex alone from tourism in 2005
Susan But how does our income from Ecotourism or all tourism compare?
shweta where eco tourism is primary activity while india barely managed to scrape togther $4.9 billon
Susan S.Africa has not had to face the near extinction of some species ever, am I right?
shweta from 'total spend' by tourists in 2004
Susan There is a lot for us to learn from S.africa, maybe Brazil too?
shweta maam i am too young infront of you can i ask one ques
shweta why there is not a proper functionay from the side of govt
Susan The govt has a ministry for tourism at Centre as well as States
chaitanya Hi,Good evening every body
shweta who r the people designin the strategies
chaitanya sorry for being late
Susan But if you mean why is there no body esply for wildlife tourism yes I think there should be a body exclusively to promote and regulate wildlife tourism
Susan Welcome, Chaitanya
chaitanya maam,there is a bodylooking after wild life tourism
Susan What is this body?
chaitanya forest department itself has intiated the policy of eco tourism
shweta there r few foreign universities who give fund for research
shweta but do we have something like that here in india
chaitanya and under that policy some charges are fixedfor sanctuaries and national parks
chaitanya yes , we do.
chaitanya if u r willing to visit there or do there camping, they r charging and let u do ur activities
Susan But the charges are not uniform nor are the collections going back to the national parks
chaitanya they are going there
chaitanya national parks' charges r higher
chaitanya the charges taken are going to their account only
Susan You mean the collections( gate) are going back to the forest dept everywhere? That is how it should be I guess.
chaitanya last three days i was in a sanctuary, i paid for my visit
chaitanya last three days i was in a sanctuary, i paid for my visit
chaitanya and i was given a reciept for the same
shweta i wana tell u very interesting fact a dead tiger will fetch $50,000 in black market.but if india were to play its card well, it stands to gain $30 million from tourists who come solely to see the magnificeint beast in its habitat.
chaitanya if the reciept is given, the charges r going to deptt.
Susan Some part of the tourist income from hotels should go to the villagers around the sanctuary/n.p too.
shweta see there is that contriversial Tribal act these days
chaitanya forest deptt is allocating some fund for upliftment of the periferry area
chaitanya but it must be utilised properly
shweta you r talkin about gujrat
chaitanya but I think, eco tourism is not beneficiary for jungles
Susan The gate fees are not very high in N.P. Maximum revenue must be from hotel and jeep earnings.
chaitanya no, this is the policy countywide
Susan Why are you saying ecotourism is not beneficial to jungles?
chaitanya we cant just look to the revenue generated, we have to look in to the disturbance done to the diversity
chaitanya I have seen people roaming in jeeps to see the beasts
shweta i think if we want to preserve wildlife we need to develop eco tourism in protctd areas
chaitanya they'r following the animals
Susan I think hotels which are starred should be banned from the vicinity of all N.Ps
chaitanya u r right shweta
shweta see controlled traffic of tourist should be there
chaitanya in each jungle, there must b a separate area, where visitors can see wild life
shweta and locals should be trained
Susan We must develop "Village tourism" or homestead tourism instead.
chaitanya its successfully done in GIR NP
Susan That will attract people who really care about wildlife and forest
chaitanya locals are trained,but they have to develop their lives
Susan What is the GIR story?
chaitanya they need more money
chaitanya There is an area named 'Devalia', which is developed as safari park
shweta thats the reason there is a need for eco tourism professionals like me
chaitanya pplcan take a round in petrol vehicle and see the lions moving freely
chaitanya its not like that shweta,
chaitanya u go in jungle, u educate ppl about nature,but...
Susan Are the Maldharis of GIR getting some benefit from tourism too?
chaitanya u must take care of nature also
chaitanya i was in a jungle for three days
chaitanya i trekked there with 60 ppl
chaitanya yes, susan
chaitanya their milk products r purchased
shweta but what to do with the people who r living inside the PAs
chaitanya and out of the income, many schemes r runned for their well being
chaitanya its a headache for govts
chaitanya in GIR, maldharis are not harming animals
shweta and govt will come up with that tribal bill
chaitanya cz, they know if jungle is finished, they r finished
shweta condition here in Dudhava is diff
chaitanya and lion is getting prey of buffallows and cows
chaitanya whats that?
Susan The Govt must be paying lots of compensation for cattle then
shweta Those Tharu tribes are gettin victim of forest animals and not benefited from tourism
shweta thats the reason they support poachers
chaitanya its disgusting
shweta One tiger skin, 7 kg tiger bones and 18 teeth were seized by the Uttar Pradesh Forest Department on 16 August 2005
Susan What can be the solution to the Tharu tribes supporting poachers?
chaitanya i read it
Susan Is this Tharu tribe the same who are there in Nepal ( Chitwan) area too?
chaitanya they must be given alternate income sources
shweta they cant b moved out of the park
chaitanya its not needed
Susan It is very difficult to see tigers in Chitwan Some say there are none left
chaitanya they are a part of the diversity
shweta they carry a gr8 culture with them but they r very poor
chaitanya and they can earn even inside
shweta thats the big ques how?
Susan The Tharu tribes of Nepal are excellent in dance and music
chaitanya so they can form a cultural group
shweta when their culture will come in front of people/
Susan Yes, Chaitanya, the forest dwellers have a culture of their own which is very exclusive
chaitanya and govt must step forward in this diraction
Susan The hotels in Chitwan get Tharu dancers to perform every night
shweta Incredible india has something for this or not?
chaitanya so they must be organised and can earn
Susan Sell the forest as a package to tourists -wild animals, tribals their culture....
shweta how to make our govt realize ?
chaitanya thru NGOs
shweta Maam why dont you form such organization
Susan Through Clubs like ours.
shweta that can look after these issues
chaitanya we can gather information and we too can write it on behalf of IWC
Susan The chat transcript is published every month and is read by at least 50,000 people a month? assuming 50% of our visitors read it
chaitanya thats cool
chaitanya hey, susan,, i will send you a report alongwith some pics of my trek.
chaitanya and i have some nice pics of my himalayan trek,too
shweta but who will perform the work at ground .we need to monitor things and give it a direction
chaitanya can it be put on IWC?
Susan We need to talk and write-internet is the best medium to get heard without taking an appointment from the govt. I believe many people from Govt also visit our site.
chaitanya and we can just write it in black and white,too
Susan Yes, Chatanya please send the trek report and pics
shweta that means we need to wait n watch till someone draws the guideline and perform
Susan We will publish it in the ezine. If you can send it by 23rd or so, we will publish it in this month's ezine
chaitanya not some one,
chaitanya we can do it
chaitanya ok, i ll do it
Susan It is always nice to talk to positive minded people like you two
chaitanya can u do one thing susan?
Susan Yes, Chaitanya?
chaitanya can u gather some detaios about tharu tribals?
chaitanya so we can prepare a presentation
chaitanya if we can just send a letter to concerned forest officials, it can do some good for them
Susan I will try to get details from the chitwan area and Shweta can get it from Dudhwa
chaitanya that will be very nice
Susan Shall we call it a day? It is time to close the chat room. Thank you Shweta and Chaitanya
chaitanya wel come and thanks to you,too susan.